'da Catholic Church.....is teh suck.
For all of you who don't know - I was raised Catholic (I know, how did I overcome...) - The best part about my parents getting divorced was that my mom didn't make me go to church anymore, so I ran kicking and screaming from the Catholic Church when I was 11 years old. (I'll digress about why I wanted out of that claustrophobic religion another time)
Anyway, in the same rancorous discussion discussed earlier - my classmate and I scratched the surface of Catholicism (My Scalian friend is Catholic...go figure.) - anyway we had the typical "I don't judge you b/c you're gay.....we are all sinners....resist the temptation" conversation. But at one point I said that I thought that the Catholic Church didn't serve a large number of its members very well, namely women & gays. To which he asked why I would want to change his church.....
Look - I don't really give a rat's ass about the Catholic Church as a Church and accordingly, I don't care what free-minded, free-willed people believe in....my concern is only implicated when those beliefs bleed into other areas of society and cause detrimental results.
So, this morning before I got out of bed - I was thinking about whether I had a good reason to why I wanted the Catholic Church to change.....and it turns out I do.
First and foremost - there are a lot of kids, gay kids in fact, who grow up Catholic - I know tons of them - and they don't choose to be Catholic - their parents choose to raise them Catholic. So they end up getting totally fucked over - they are taught that being gay is wrong & sex outside of marriage is a sin, etc. These kids didn't choose to be Catholic and yet the Church is doing a horrible disservice to those kids by subjecting them to their bigoted teachings. So that's one reason.
Secondly - in our society religion seems to be this 'trump card' - it shouldn't be, but it is....so the Church is training all of these people to believe a certain thing (Homosexuality is a sin, Life begins at conception, Abstinence, etc.) - and because it's cloaked in religion - it removes human intelligence and logic from important issues in public discourse. It would be fantastic if people could go to mass, come home and engage in an abortion-rights discussion separate from religion, but they seem to be unable to do so. So the result is that a large number of people attempt to deny the rights of others because the exercise of those rights don't comport to their religion. And here is where bumper stickers come in handy: If you don't like abortion, don't have one & If you don't like gay marriage, don't have one. Further, if one should ask a Conservative Catholic, "Why shouldn't we allow same-sex marriage?" the response one is likely to receive will somehow implicate the Bible or the more palatable "Judeo-Christian tradition".....but is that a substantive answer....I would argue no. This is the Church taking important human decisions out of the hands of the adherent individual and vesting them with Rome.
Lastly, the Church needs to stay out of politics - these media-hungry bishops that threaten to deny sacrament to politicians based on how they vote on a certain issues - they need to be reprimanded immediately. Those elected officials serve the people, not themselves and for the Church to implicate their personal faith in reaction to their official decisions...well that's shameful and anti-democratic.
The bottom-line is that I really couldn't care less about the religious beliefs that people choose to hold - I just want them to stop hurting others.
5 Comments:
AML--
Honestly, you are like the law school Maureen Dowd (who I love, love, love to read--not to mention, she is totally hot--like you--but apparently not loving the male prospects in her world--like you?)--whenever I am reading your posts--I want to scream out "Hell Yes" to the universe--you are one of those writers that can really put the thoughts that many of us lefties have into words.
Thank you for making me smile, and think, and scream "Hell Yes" on the daily.
--Timi
Being that you left the Church at 11, you probably don't have a full grasp of Catholic catechism, which, for our Protestant friends, is fully based on scripture.
The Catholic Church has existed for 2,000 years and was commissioned by Christ to hold certain truths and to faithfully pass those sacred traditions on to future generations. Certain things are not within the authority of the Catholic Church to change: ordination of women, same sex marriage.
Look at all the Protestant churches - nearly no two are identical in their beliefs. Some celebrate the mass; others do not. Some are pro-life; others pro-abortion. Some ordain gays and women; others do not. The Protestant churches don't have the authority and responsibility that the Catholic Church has been given. Thanks to heresies that teach no ecclesiastical authority and self interpretation of the Bible, moral anarchy is the new standard in the western world.
Just like children whining about a stern parent or teacher, the world doesn't like it when the Catholic Church reminds us that certain things are wrong and will always be wrong. Years later we are thankful that our parents loved us enough to discipline us; ditto with the Church.
Hopefully, as you mature, you will have a desire to reconcile yourself with the Catholic Church.
God bless and keep you...
I'm not sure who wrote the above, but I don't understand why a religion that encourages people to "love their neighbor as themselves" would say that something - someONE - is "wrong" and "will always be wrong." I remember learning a lot about how the tax collectors and the Pharisees and the prostitutes used to be prosecuted back in the day and Jesus, you know, embraced them and stuff. As far as I can remember, the Bible didn't go on to say, "Jesus then told these people that they were sinners and made them feel like shite about themselves."
-sandy
I watched the movie 'Saved' this evening, so the anonymous poster's comments are particularly amusing. Adherence to a 'morality' imposed by a mortal Pope is a Catholic's justification to pass judgment, categorize, and deny that which so critically makes us human.
I have my own faith, and bristle at those who claim that I am going to hell or will spend eternity in purgatory because I do not share their views. The hypocritical condecension, so typically and vividly put on display by the anonymous (and cowardly) poster above, simply belies the inability to have any meaningful discussion until the 'other side' finally realizes that the answer to the religious equivalent of the question 'why' is not, as the haggard parent would like to believe, simply 'because.'
Rather than blind adherence to a standard that allows the so-called tolerant faithful to pass judgment on anyone not like the cookie-cutter ideal of society with which their church has imbued them, the zealots need to begin to ask themselves the tough questions that 'grown-ups' tend to face. Only until one has engaged in the soul-searching necessary to understand the assumptions and reasoning underlying one's views should they consider themselves qualified to contribute to the discussion.
Until then, keep quiet. The adults are talking.
Hey everybody....thanks for all the comments.
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